EP9: MONEY & TIME: WE NEED TO HAVE “THE TALK”

Welcome to Designed for Desire, the podcast where luxury, kink, and home come together to create spaces that are anything but ordinary.

Hi, I’m Jenny, your host and the Creative Genius behind White Wave Design, a luxury full-service interior design studio specializing in erotic private residences for badass soulmates. I design for the weird, the wonderful, and the unapologetically unconventional. For those who crave total freedom in the comfort and beauty of home, a place where you never have to hold back. Your home becomes a part of your foreplay. 

Because this niche doesn’t exist in mainstream design, I know you have questions, and this podcast is here to answer them. You’ll hear me switch between pronouns, plurals, and titles because the relationships I work with are as beautifully varied and expansive as the people themselves, and always between ridiculously in love and fiercely devoted consenting adults in a 24/7 D/s dynamic. 

Whatever twists of fate, coincidences, or hidden alignments the universe set in motion, I’m so happy you're here!

Hello Wonderful Weirdo!

I hope you had an awesome summer and enjoyed some fun in the sun. Here in Muskoka, the leaves started changing colour and falling mid-August, along with cooler evenings. September marks the return of sweaters, cozy blankets, and spooky vibes…my favourites!!! It was too nice of a day to be inside, so I decided to record in the great outdoors. You may hear a little background noise along the way.  

Today's conversation is all about the two questions I'm asked most often: How much does it cost? And how long will it take? I'll be speaking to badass soulmates dreaming of a one-of-a-kind home, curious minds who just want to hear the answers, and fellow designers and creatives toward the end of the episode. 

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I’ve had this episode topic on my calendar for months. I had the outline and most of it written within a few weeks, but I was struggling with one subject. If you’re a fellow designer, you might have an inkling or hunch which one it is. If you guessed design fees, you would be correct!

I am comfortable speaking about the numbers and confident in them. Where it had me pausing was sharing them outside of a one-on-one conversation. There is something different about openly discussing money with listeners who didn’t reach out to you, and as an industry, numbers aren’t openly discussed either. Whether it is shame, embarrassment, not knowing, or not wanting the vitriol from the masses online, there are probably many reasons we don’t openly talk about money.

I am forever inspired by a designer who has the best IG videos, and she openly discussed her design fees, with both positive and negative reactions to the numbers she provided. With this inspiration and my goal of making money, investments, and costs part of the normal, everyday conversation within the design community, I decided to share the fucking numbers. It would also be nice if people outside of the design industry had a better understanding of what it realistically costs and how long it actually takes to achieve the beautiful homes that we do, making the whole process a little less of a mystery.

If something is going to go off the rails in a design project, it will almost always be about money or time expectations, which is why we talk about them right away, long before you sign anything. You want to know how much it’s going to cost and how long it will take, and I will tell you the answer. You may or may not agree, like my answer, want to invest that much or wait that long, feel comfortable, be surprised, or have heard a designer talk about money or time like this before. Everything I'm sharing with you reflects how I lead White Wave Design. These timelines, investments, and processes are specific to my studio and have no bearing on the industry as a whole.

Interior design is a weird and wacky industry. Most clients have zero idea what anything actually costs. You can't just do a web search "how much does it cost to build and fully furnish a luxury home?" and get an accurate answer. That answer absolutely does not exist online, so it is 110% my job to tell you what it takes. That's why having the money conversation early and often is one of the most important parts of my job. I provide you with accurate information, the good and the bad, so that you can make an informed decision.

When you say yes to working with WWD, it’s because you know the money, the time, the process, and the scale. You are not dreaming that you’ll be hosting Christmas dinner next year, and you understand from the start that this is a long-term slow burn relationship, not a weekend fling. You know exactly what’s expected of you, exactly what’s handled by me, and how all the moving parts work. Your yes is not a half-hearted maybe. When you say yes you are the designer for us, pay a tonne of mula, and sign up for several years of creative shenanigans with yours truly, your yes needs to be a full-body, all-in, FUCK YES!!!! After I tell you the reality of what this takes and you don’t run away, is it too soon for matching tattoos???

This episode is airing Fall 2026, so depending on when you are listening, some of the details may shift, but what this takes will not change.

THE STEREOTYPE OF DESIGNERS BLOWING YOUR BUDGET

The most important topic to start this chat with is the fact that there is this idea floating around that designers just blow your budget. And if that's what you think I'm about to do, of course you're not going to tell me the real number. You're going to hold back and you're going to give me the "safe number" instead of the real number.

I understand where that perception comes from. First, TV has done us no favours. Renovation shows make everything look fast and far less expensive than it actually is. They condense years into a one-hour episode. They don't show the warehouses, the shipping, the installation teams, the delays, the hundreds of people involved, or the logistics happening behind the scenes. It all wraps up with the big reveal, everyone cries happy tears, and the credits roll.

I also think we, as an industry, have unintentionally contributed to that perception. We naturally share the beautiful finished photographs and reveal videos because they're the celebration of years of work. But we rarely show the journey it took to get there: the planning, the budgeting, the coordination, the revisions, the problem-solving, and the thousands of decisions made long before the camera ever came out. Most people only see the finished home, not everything that made it possible.

Another big reason is scope. People come in with a Pinterest board, a wish list, and a vision, and I love that. But often that vision doesn't match the initial number they had in mind. When we start putting real numbers to that vision, it can feel like the budget is growing when, in reality, we're simply pricing what was already imagined.

It can also come from designers who don't know their numbers or are too afraid to have honest budget conversations. So when the project inevitably costs what it was always going to cost, it feels like the budget has been blown when, in reality, it simply wasn't discussed properly from the beginning.

That's exactly why I have the money conversation during our very first Discovery Call. My job isn't to tell you what you want to hear so you'll hire me. My job is to tell you what it will actually take to bring your vision to life. If your dream fits comfortably within the investment you've set, wonderful. If it needs to be scaled back, I'll tell you that too. Honest conversations at the beginning protect everyone from disappointment later.

There's another saying I'd love to retire while we're here. "When you hire a designer, you save money." No. No, no. You spend a lot of money. A lot.

What I think people actually mean is that you avoid costly mistakes and pay to redo things later because things were done correctly the first time. Or perhaps your designer shares their trade discounts with you. But somewhere along the way, that message became "designers save you money," and I don't think that's an honest representation of what we do.

There is an assumption that we don't understand budgets, don't respect limits, and can't be trusted with serious investments. I'm designing your home with precision, intention, and a fierce respect for what it takes to bring your erotic manor to life. Yes, I'm creative. Yes, I'm bold. Yes, I'm going to come up with wild ideas if you tell me the world is my oyster. But my goal isn't to spend as much as I can just because I can.

My goal is to tell you upfront what it actually takes. If your vision fits comfortably within the investment you've set, wonderful. If it needs to be pared back, I'll tell you that too. What I'm not going to do is smile sweetly, nod my head, and pretend I can achieve the result with a budget or timeline that I already know won't work.

That isn't fun for you, and it certainly isn't fun for me when it all falls apart later.

So when we talk about your budget from day one, it isn't about inflating numbers. It's about making sure we're aligned so I can deliver what you're dreaming of and protect both of us from becoming the cautionary tale at someone else's dinner party.

SURPRISES & CONTINGENCIES

Okay, let's talk about surprises.

There will absolutely be surprises, both good ones and not so great ones. Even with the most detailed planning, the most exquisite drawings, and the most thorough pre-construction meetings, something unexpected will happen. That's not a reason to panic. It's simply the reality of building or renovating a bespoke home.

What matters isn't whether the unexpected happens. It's how it's handled.

You won't be left scrambling, stressed, or suddenly expected to become the project manager. When a challenge comes up, the build team and I assess the situation, explore the options, and decide on the best path forward. We plan for this from the very beginning, which is why we leave a contingency in the budget. That buffer exists because the unexpected isn't unusual, it's expected.

Every project encounters its own curveballs. Maybe the marble slab is delayed at a shipping port, hidden water damage discovered during demolition, outdated wiring behind the walls, a discontinued fabric, weather delays, or a product arriving damaged. Every project has its own challenges.

Most of the time, you'll never even know they happened.

If we're able to resolve the issue behind the scenes, we will. If we need your approval, we'll come to you with a solution, not a problem. By the time we're having the conversation, we've already researched the options, spoken with the team, and understand the implications, so you have everything you need to make an informed decision.

That's one of the reasons you've hired professionals.

I also don't love the phrase "hidden costs," because nothing about this process is hidden. There are certainly costs people don't always know to expect, such as warehousing, freight, installation, workrooms, white-glove delivery, or storage, but they're never hidden. They're discussed, planned for, and included in the project budget.

Will the unexpected happen? Almost certainly. Will it derail the project? Not if you've assembled the right team.

THE COST IS THE COST

To make sure we're all on the same page, this part might get a little ranty. Stick with me.

There's been a lot of chatter in the design world about "transparency." My definition is probably different from what you've heard.

To me, transparency means telling you upfront what your project will cost, how I work, what you can expect from the process, and what you'll receive. Either that works for you, or it doesn't. Simple.

What transparency does not mean is opening my books and showing you what I pay my team, consultants, vendors, or my suppliers. It doesn't mean breaking down my operating expenses or explaining every dollar that keeps White Wave Design running. This is business, not confession.

I don't know what your company spends on payroll, rent, insurance, software, or overhead before deciding whether to buy your product or service, and I don't expect you to know mine. Transparency isn't about exposure. It's about clarity, honesty, and trust.

Hiring a design and build team is no different.

You're not paying me to justify every penny. You're paying me to design an exquisitely tailored home that reflects your love story, your sex life, and your BDSM lifestyle.

My revenue comes from design fees only, not from product sales. That's why I partner with full-service build firms who manage procurement: ordering, tracking, shipping, receiving, inspecting, warehousing, white-glove delivery, and coordinating every item until it's installed in your home. My focus stays exactly where I believe it should be, on you and the design.

And finally...I don't negotiate my design fees. You can absolutely ask and my answer will be no. If negotiating is important to you, I'm probably not the right gal for you.

PROJECT COMPLEXITY AND CUSTOMIZATION

When you're building or renovating at this level, there is no such thing as a simple project.

Every decision, from the structure of the home to the placement of a single outlet, affects countless other decisions. Whether it's a 2,500-square-foot love nest or a 25,000-square-foot fairytale castle, you're working with architects, engineers, artisans, builders, consultants, installers, and suppliers, all coordinating toward one shared vision.

Customization adds another layer of complexity because very little is pulled off a shelf. Pieces are commissioned. Millwork is built specifically for your home. Stone is carved to exacting specifications. Lighting is engineered for the architecture. Every decision considers the beautifully ordinary moments that are anything but little.

Let's look at one example.

Imagine a Beauty and the Beast-inspired dining room. Because the room is so grand, as castle dining rooms are, the lighting has to be equally grand. In this design there are six chandeliers, each measuring 9’9” W x 11’6”H. If those dimensions don't mean much to you, each fixture is roughly the size of a smaller bedroom with a really tall ceiling. They're handcrafted in Italy, taking approximately ten weeks to build, followed by another ten weeks before they even reach the warehouse.

They can't fit through a doorway fully assembled, so they're built inside the room. The ceiling has to be engineered to support them. A custom winch system is built into the structure. The architect, builder, electricians, engineers, installers, and lighting specialists all have to coordinate long before installation day.

To put that into perspective, a typical dining room chandelier might weigh 20 pounds and have six bulbs that can be installed using a step ladder. These weigh around 150 pounds each and more than 900 pounds suspended from the ceiling with three hundred and eighty-four light bulbs.

And one final thought before I move to the next topic. It’s never just the price to build. The cost of maintenance and the effort to run it must be part of the conversation too. It also needs to be maintained, along with the grounds. A castle sized home would require a large staff and walkie-talkies for sure. This would take hide and seek to a whole new level.

If you tell me the world is my oyster and to run like the wind...I'm going to be gone so quickly, cackling like the witch from Bugs Bunny with my hair pins left behind. No holds barred, I'm going to come up with some wild ideas.

You want to be dazzled, and that is the only result I offer.

BUDGET BREAKDOWN

So now that you have an idea of the scale of these projects and my wild design ideas the time has come for the budget breakdown.

I'm about to share some very large numbers. These aren't representative of every interior design project. They're representative of the luxury new construction and full-scale renovations that White Wave Design specializes in. When you hire my studio, there is no illusion about the investment or the timeline. This is what it takes to achieve the level of design, customization, and execution we've been talking about throughout this episode.

To give you a sense of the investment, I've included the same chart I use during Discovery Calls with potential clients. I’m warning you, these numbers are high, so I suggest sitting down, or if you’re listening while working out, get off the treadmill. I don’t want you tripping or flying off.

The project investment includes everything from land acquisition and construction through furnishings, consultants, landscaping, permits, and contingency.

Here we go!!!

My retainer is $1 million, which secures my creative commitment. It is non-refundable and is applied to the first five months.

I charge a flat design fee based on the time your project is on my calendar, not including travel and accommodations. My design fee is $2.4 million per year including HST. Over the course of three to six plus years, you can expect to invest $7.2 million to $14.4 million or more in design fees.

Whether it’s new construction or a renovation, I use cost per square foot to estimate the build and furnishings investment during our Discovery Call.

2,500SF	BUILD TEAM	FURNISHINGS	TOTAL
Low	2,500 x 750= 1,875,000	2,500 x 250= 625,000	$2,500,000
Medium	2,500 x 1,500= 3,750,000	2,500 x 500= 1,250,000	$5,000,000
High	2,500 x 3,000= 7,500,000	2,500 x 1,000= 2,500,000	$10,000,000
25,000SF	BUILD TEAM	FURNISHINGS	TOTAL
Low	25,000 x 750= 18,750,000	25,000 x 250= 6,250,000	$25,000,000
Medium	25,000 x 1,500= 37,500,000	25,000 x 500= 12,500,000	$50,000,000
High	25,000 x 3,000= 75,000,000	25,000 x 1,000= 25,000,000	$100,000,000

I’m going to give you a minute to breathe here and absorb what you just heard.

When you complete the Inquiry Form on my website, you'll choose a planned project investment of $10M-$25M, $25M-$50M, $50M-$100M, or $100M+.

During our Discovery Call, we'll narrow them down based on your vision, priorities, and the level of customization you're looking for. I will tell you if the house is too big or too small, and if your wish list and budget are possible. I will not push you to invest more than you want to or what you feel comfortable with. My goal isn’t to source the most expensive light fixture just for the fun of it. That couldn’t be further from my design philosophy. Which is why having the money talk during our very first conversation is so imperative. If we are aligned and you hire me, my goal is to wield my Creative Genius to craft you the most badass kinky dream home with the budget you have set.

We aren't debating whether one sofa costs $10,000 or $40,000. My job is to determine which sofa best serves the design, how it's built, how it performs, how long it will last, and whether it'll hold up to your amorous activities and the clean-up afterwards.

Remember those stunning dining room light fixtures…to purchase this stunning chandelier is $383,000 CAD, with $31,000 for shipping. This does not include installation or the logistics of install. Multiply that by six, and it adds up quickly.

If you’re going to request a Beauty and the Beast-inspired castle, it will cost a fortune. Expect a starting price of $120 to $150 million and up, depending on the size of the home and the level of customization.

You might even tell me that your budget is unlimited. I can say with certainty that there is always a limit. Whether you are working with $25 million or $250 million, there is a top number. Telling me “the sky’s the limit” is super fun to say and super duper fun for me to hear, but in reality, it is a slippery slope if money is not discussed openly before the work begins.

There's another budget consideration people rarely think about. Not the cost to build and furnish the home, but the ongoing care of the home itself. Maintenance, staffing, housekeeping, landscaping, security, repairs, and everything it takes to keep your home running beautifully for years to come.

A luxury home isn't just an investment to build, it’s also an investment to own.

Now, if you're a fellow planner, you're probably already thinking ahead and wondering, "Okay, Jenny...but what about resale?" The homes I design are not about resale to any stretch of the imagination. They are not built to be neutral or safe or cookie cutter so the next buyer can slide right in. When the time comes to sell your home, unless another wonderful weirdo wants exactly what we created, it will likely need to be renovated or, at the very least, updated. This is also a part of the financial discussion. Picture the Beast’s castle before the spell was broken, all gothic and moody with gargoyles, versus after the spell, light and airy with cherubs. Same castle, different energy.

The purpose of these conversations isn't to scare you. It's to make sure you understand exactly what you're signing up for before we begin. It's to make sure you understand where the money will be spent, today and in the future.

WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG?

It takes forever, so you need to be real fucking sure I'm the designer for you because we're going to hang out A LOT!!

There is no "having the house ready for Christmas" or "we're hoping to host a birthday party next month." If you decide to embark on this weird and wonderful journey, it takes as long as it takes because there is absolutely no rushing the extraordinary.

One thing that makes my studio a little different is that I only accept two residential projects at a time, staggered by at least one to two years. I don't take on another project until one of those two is complete. I've intentionally chosen depth over volume because I don't want my attention divided between dozens of clients.

And again, you're probably asking, "Why, Jenny? Why does it take that long?"

Because we're creating a sexy magical wonderland that has never existed before. When I say we're starting from scratch, I mean exactly that. I'm collaborating with your architect while your home is just a series of sketches on paper. We're designing the house plans, how the rooms connect, where windows and doors are located, sightlines, traffic flow, and all the devious and delightful things we're going to do with it.

Most misconceptions about interior design come from seeing the final photos and none of the process. Fluffing pillows happens during the last 2 days of a 1,825-day project. So there's way less pillow fluffing than you've been led to believe!

People often imagine designers spending their days picking pretty things. "How hard can it be? You just pick a sofa." And I get it. From the outside looking in, it probably does seem that simple.

So let's look at just one sofa.

Before I even start designing the sofa, I need to understand how you're actually going to use it. Is it for formal entertaining or Sunday afternoon naps? Will everyone pile on to watch movies? Do you have pets? Do you like sinking into the cushions with a romance novel, or sitting upright with your morning coffee?

Then I start making decisions. Your body measurements help determine the dimensions. How wide? How deep? How tall? Then I have to think about the home. Will it fit through the front door? The hallways? The elevator? Up the stairwell?

Do you want to sink into it after a long day or feel more supported? Feather? Foam? A combination of both? Is it built with a kiln-dried hardwood frame? Eight-way hand-tied springs? Fabric or leather? Performance fabric? Pet-friendly? Colour? Texture? Contrast piping? Tufting?

And that's just one sofa.

Now imagine making that many thoughtful decisions for every chair, every dining table, every bed, light fixture, faucet, cabinet, tile, paint colour and finish, every piece of millwork, and every room throughout the house.

Suddenly, it doesn't sound like I spend my days "just picking a sofa."

One design decision creates dozens of construction decisions. Designing a custom home is like solving one enormous puzzle where every piece has to fit together.

Let's use one more example.

Imagine the artist and I have designed a carved monolithic pink stone bathtub that weighs 4,000 pounds. It takes six to eight months to carve. The structure has to be engineered long before construction reaches that stage. A crane has to lift it into the house in exactly the right position because you can't just nudge a two-tonne rock with your hip to scootch it over and line it up with the drain.

Timelines are always approximate because so much is outside of our control. We talk about this during our very first conversation because I want you to make peace with the unknown. I completely understand that it sucks, but knowing what to expect makes those moments much less overwhelming.

On a six-year project, the early years are spent getting to know you, creating the vision, refining every detail, coordinating consultants, and producing the construction documentation that allows the home to be built.

Then construction begins. Years of site visits, problem-solving, shop drawings, procurement, craftsmanship, and thousands more decisions bring the vision to life. There are also municipal approvals to navigate, engineering revisions to coordinate, artisan lead times, global shipping, weather doing whatever weather feels like doing, unexpected site discoveries, and occasionally a client who falls in love with a different idea halfway through. Somehow, all of that has to be coordinated so hundreds of trades, suppliers, consultants, installers, and artisans arrive exactly when they're supposed to.

Finally comes installation, styling, and Reveal Day. The moment you and your love bug, or love bugs, walk through the front door and realize that every conversation, every decision, every delay, every dollar, and every year was leading to this. A home where your kinky as fuck relationship isn't accommodated, it's celebrated. Where your routines, rituals, and protocols belong. Where, for the first time, the 24/7 D/s dynamic you share behind closed doors becomes the life your home was designed to honour.

FOR MY FELLOW DESIGNERS AND CREATIVES

As promised, now that we're nearing the end of this episode, I wanted to spend a few minutes speaking directly to my fellow designers and creatives. If you're a homeowner, feel free to keep listening because you might find this interesting too.

PRICING ON YOUR WEBSITE: TO PUBLISH OR NOT TO PUBLISH?

There is a debate about having pricing on your website or not.

Some designers choose to publish their pricing because it gives potential clients a better understanding of the investment from the very beginning. It helps potential clients understand whether they're in the right ballpark before reaching out, saves time for both parties, and can qualify inquiries.

Other designers choose not to publish pricing because their business offers multiple services with different pricing structures, such as consultations, furnishings-only projects, kitchen and bathroom renovations, or full-service luxury new construction. Rather than trying to explain several pricing models on a website, they prefer to first understand the client's goals, project scope, and which service is the best fit before discussing investment.

THE PRICE COMPARISON TRAP

Let's use coffee as an example. There are countless ways to enjoy a cup of coffee, and every option comes with a different investment. You can make it at home with a drip coffee maker, grind your own beans and perfect your morning ritual, stop in to see your favourite local barista on your way to work, install a professional espresso machine in your home, or have your private chef hand you a perfectly made cappuccino every morning. They're all coffee, but they're not the same experience, they're not the same level of service, and they're certainly not the same investment.

Interior design is no different. One designer may offer Designer for the Day, another specializes in vacation homes, another focuses on accessibility and aging-in-place, while another leads multi-year hospitality projects. They're all interior designers, but they're delivering completely different experiences, levels of involvement, expertise, and services. Comparing them by price alone doesn’t tell the whole story.

When someone asks why you can't do it for less, they're often comparing an entirely different scope. That's the price comparison trap.

There are many budgets and many clients to work with. The only thing that changes is the number of zeros: $1,000, $10,000, $100,000, $1,000,000, $10,000,000, $100,000,000. If someone isn't the right fit at $100,000 and asks why you can't do the bedroom for $10,000, when the four-poster bedframe is custom fitted for your bondage play and overhead mirror alone come in at $10,000 because they're specifically designed to last for decades instead of a few years, it simply can't be done. Price without context is just a number. Context is your job to provide. Don't compare prices without comparing what's being delivered.

If you can't do it for less, don't pretend that you can. You're the expert, and potential clients are relying on you to educate them. Have an honest conversation at the beginning instead of letting the project fall apart later. As the brilliant Seth Godin said: "Pick your clients, pick your future."

"CHARGE WHAT YOU'RE WORTH": CAN WE PLEASE RETIRE THIS?

I also want to discuss the phrase “charging what you’re worth.”

I’m 100% sure it is meant and said with the intention of empowerment as I've heard it from coaches, designers, and entrepreneurs that I admire. It however is one of my biggest pet peeves, and I think it’s time we retire it for good. You are not charging for your worth as a human being. That’s not what this is, and that’s not how any of this works.

Let’s reframe this once and for all.

You’re not charging what you’re worth. You’re charging what the project and the results are worth.

You’re charging for your time, creative genius, lived experience, technical expertise, your vision, leadership, the ability to take an idea through to execution, and the fact that your clients will be living in and enjoying that home for years after your part is done.

That’s not your worth. That’s the value of the work.

When we say “charge what you’re worth,” I believe we set ourselves up to take rejection personally. It also comes down to what you think you're worth, and that’s where things get messy.

When designers charge hourly, there’s often this quiet moment of second-guessing before the invoice goes out. You look at the total hours…and then you shave some off. You tell yourself, “Oh, that part didn’t take that long,” or “They won’t want to pay for me troubleshooting that software glitch,” or “I should’ve been faster.”

So you reduce it. You discount your time before the client even sees it. And not even because they asked. Because you questioned your value. This is the danger of attaching pricing to personal worth. When you feel off, unsure, tired, or vulnerable, your pricing shifts to match your emotional state. It also gives clients an unrealistic impression of what it actually costs to design a home.

But your value isn’t defined by how confident you felt that day. It’s defined by the work, the results you deliver, and the transformation you made possible.

Discounting your hours doesn’t make you generous. It makes your business shaky. Your time counts. Your experience counts. Your effort counts. Even the messy parts are part of the process.

So the next time you’re about to send an invoice, ask yourself: Am I charging for the work I did? Or am I adjusting it based on how I feel about myself today? Because they’re not the same, and only one keeps your business sustainable.

With love,

From me to you.

More than design. This is identity.

My intention for this episode was for you to know that you’re not alone. To feel seen, heard, and understood. To know that your desires are valid, and that a home designed to enhance your sex life is not only possible, it’s waiting for you.

Maybe you laughed. Maybe a memory tugged at your heartstrings. Maybe you had an aha moment, or whispered, “she gets me.”

If you feel that working with the White Wave Design team is for you, please visit our Design Inquiry page.

Thank you for spending this time with me and for allowing me to be part of your journey. Until next time… have joy.

Jenny 💀